Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Mick Cowan's avatar

What was learnt?

1. The pressure placed on the opposition reflected the Jeans’ quote “Kill the body and the mind will crumble” – In the first half, when looking at contested situations, the “white” jumpers clearly outnumbered the “dark” jumpers hunting the ball. Then when the Saints had a chance to move the ball, the intent to come forward to the ball carrier and forcing them to make a decision, generating a contagious level of confusion within the opposition. Once they had the scent of blood in the water channeling Clarko’s shark metaphor, they swarmed for “the kill”.

2. The game starts in the centre square and if you get it right, the game is played on your terms – Coming into the game, one area of concern was the athleticism of the Saints’ rucks to overrun both Reeves and Meek. From the first bounce, Reeves imposed himself on the centre square contests and dominated TDK in these contests. He was also able to provide clean service to the mids which they took clear advantage of for the first time this season.

3. Watson as a centre square option becoming stronger – See below Watson’s CBA numbers, his highest for the year, but more significantly he was able to connect a couple of times for clean clearances which hasn’t been a strength of his thus far.

4. The high half forwards were in synch for a long time – A feature of the team’s performance in 2025 was the ability of Moore, Ginnivan and CMacdonald to create and finish off chances. In the past month, both Ginnivan and CMacdonald have been out of touch with their best games, however this was the game where they all hit form together. It is a clear reminder as to how important they are to the performance of the team. Perhaps assisted by the options for others to play on the wing (Nairn & Perez), allowing Ginnivan to spend more time in the offensive part of the ground – 90% this week.

5. The most important kick in the game is the one going inside F50 – With the return of Day, we regained another player who has the foot skills to provide quality delivery to a leading forward. Newcombe was equally as surgically efficient with his delivery inside F50. D’Ambrosio was another to demonstrate what he can do with the ball going inside F50. His overall kicking efficiency stats aren’t great, but he was able to hit the most important ones.

6. Chol provided a master class of the modern tall forward – For those who may still be doubting his value to the team, now he is doing centre square work adding another string to his bow. For a player of his size, his capacity to sidestep opponents is a skill that few players of his size possess. Equally, his field kicking is as good as any in the team and no doubt those who play closer to goal lick their lips when Chol is turning towards them. For those old enough, a West Indian fast bowler in the 70s & 80s – Michael Holding – was known as “Whispering Death” as he was so nonchalant and athletic in his run up, but wreaked havoc on batters. The same principles could be applied to Chol for his defensive work inside F50.

Observations:

• Mackenzie’s best all round game as he was able to win his own ball in contests as well as consistently apply defensive pressure. Notably he had 91% TOG in the fourth quarter which has been a watch on his game.

• Having been exemplary over the past month, Impey proved himself to be fallible in the 3rd quarter when he made a couple of poor decisions.

• BMacdonald has pace, which is an attribute we are light on, but he has to improve his kicking skills, particularly going inside F50. It is all well and good to race past opponents, but if you miss the target and they come out the other side of the ground, we are caught out of position. It was noticeable after some poor kicks in the 1st quarter, he handballed 6 times in the 2nd – gun shy?

• Nairn again was our highest rated player in running offensively, but he was also able to get back to help the back six. He also recorded the highest average speed in the game. (The Saints recorded the top 5 players in the game defensively.)

• Perez was another player to provide the coaches with more flexibility starting on the wing, allowing Ginnivan to play forward and then go back releasing Hardwick.

• Best set shot conversion for the year: 15 set shots for 11.3 & 1 miss. 73.33% goal conversion – previous best 66.67% Fremantle.

• Disposal distribution was interesting – 217 kicks/212 handballs 1:1 ratio is high, but forward handball has become a trend in the game overall.

• 0 disposals quarters – 2nd: Reeves; 4th Gunston

• Tackle count by quarter – 16/18; 17/5; 11/14; 12/11 (56/48)

• I50 count/score by quarter 14/8 (3.2/0.2); 17/8 (5.5/0.3); 12/17 (5.4/6.2); 13/11 (5.0/3.6))

• Disposal count: 126/88; 110/100; 97/92; 100/107 (429/387)

• TOG % Bottom 5 (plus rucks): Meek 54%; Reeves 60%; Day 62%; Gunston 62%; Chol 73%; Perez 75%; Nairn 75%; Lewis 78% (Battle 95% highest.)

• Kicking efficiency (DE): Reeves 100%/1 (100); Chol 89%/9 (90); Newcombe 88%/8 (96); Amon 88%/16 (92); Weddle 86%/7 (87); Hardwick 82%/11 (82); Sicily 80%/20 (82)

Lewis 50%/6 (62); BMacdonald 50%/6 (80); Meek 50%/2 (80); D’Ambrosio 53%/17 (71); Gunston 60%/10 (60); Nairn 60%/10 (77); Perez 60%/5 (78).

Starting 4: (CBA/% total CBA/CC)

1st Qrt: Reeves (15/50/0) Newcombe (25/83/5) Ward (17/57/1) Mackenzie (15/50/2)

2nd Qrt: Chol (3/10/1) Newcombe Ward Watson (10/33/2)

3rd Qrt: Reeves Newcombe Ward Watson

4th Qrt: Meek (12/40/1) Newcombe Ward Mackenzie

Day 14/47/1 CMacdonald 9/30/2

30 CBAs/15 clearances (Opposition:10 Neutral:5)

Using the three ruck options worked was implemented again with Chol only involved in the 2nd quarter – this was the 5th quarter across the season he has been in CBAs. With Naash out, the rotations were limited to 6 midfielders with Watson having a season high CBA count. Ward started in the centre square for each quarter for the first time. The quality of the ruck work looked to be more connected with the mids with 3 goals from centre clearances. Winning the centre clearances was against recent performances and lost stoppages which may reflect the absence of Nash and his role. Reeves didn’t attend a CBA in the 2nd quarter and only played 37% TOG for the quarter.

Watch for the season

Gunston – 2 x lead. 1 back shoulder space; 1 crumb; 1 general play

Issue for the week:

The pecking order for those who sit outside the best 18 is starting to take shape, however there may still be specific roles that may well suit those who may be “lower” on the list. The issue is how selection will be managed in the middle part of the season as opportunities need to be given to those who are ranked 19-30 and for them to take their chances when they are called up to the level.

Stuart McKenzie's avatar

This was the classic game where we had an across-the-board contribution from our midfield / half forward group, with Mackenzie, Massimo, Jai, Ward, Ginnivan, Watson, Connor Mac, and Moore having 20+ possessions. While he only had 18 possessions, on a game time adjusted basis, Day's numbers were excellent. This is the blueprint for success against the better teams. Ward's consistency is now a feature of his game and Mackenzie's ability to accumulate good possession numbers in recent games is extremely pleasing.

The development of Mackenzie and Ward, together with the return of Will Day, is not only a huge factor on game day, it also has list management implications. There was discussion on the HI pod last week about whether we'd take Merrett or Greene. Right now, I'd take neither - perhaps Greene as a free agent - as the draft capital we'd have to give up for a player such as Merrett who will play no more than 50-60 games and will take serious midfield minutes from Mackenzie and Ward, is not in the our immediate or medium term interests.

While TDK and Marshall were neutralized, the benefits of the two rucks is still an open question. They combined for 15 possessions and 2 marks and while there was hit out dominance, this didn't translate to clearance dominance. Are we better with a player such as McCabe in the 23 instead of Meek/Reeves, who offers versatility and can allow us to retain 3 tall forwards while Mabior does some ruck minutes. It will be a fascinating watch this week, particularly with the possibility that the Bulldogs may play English and Lobb as their ruck pairing. That duel could be decisive in determining the outcome on Friday night.

Is there any concern that firstly, we allowed StKilda back into the game after half and but for their poor goal kicking it could have been a little worrying, secondly, despite our apparent dominance, the expected score was 12 points and thirdly, we really struggled to defend Silvagni when he moved forward after half time?

With Barass and Nash likely to be available this week, selection will be a big watch. Given that Perez was the late inclusion, you'd think that he is replaced by Nash, however not so easy is who Barass replaces and how the defence sets up when he returns, given that Weddle is now likely to play as a permanent defender. Does Amon go to a wing? Does Hardwick go forward? Regardless, to be at full strength for such an important game is a great position to be in.

3 more comments...

No posts

Ready for more?